I get asked this question all of the time by new protegees: "How much is too much risk"?
My answer: There really isn't a simple answer to that question. You see risk involves what I like to call heat. Heat is defined by the point that your literally begin to perspire. A lot of times that is what pressure does.
Heat will make you do some crazy things. For instance have you ever burned your hand on a hot stove or pan? If so you know what I am talking about.
First you start talking different. You might say a few words that you wouldn't say under normal circumstances. :-)
Next, you start walking different. You might start pacing back and forth across the room in anticipation that the pain is going to magically go away, when you know good and well that it isn't.
Then you start looking different. Your face may get red and you may start to sweat as your body goes into action to cool you down. And finally the area where you got burned, blisters up and creates a wound that can annoy you for days and can even get infected if you don't treat it right.
Well in trading it is no different except we aren't dealing with physical heat, but emotional heat. Everyone handles emotional heat in a different way.
I like to sit in the Sauna after a good workout. I've noticed that some people can get into that 170 degree heat and stay for 20 minutes or more. Others get in there and in five minutes they have had all they can take.
In the same manner each one of us is built with a different psychological makeup. We each have a unique tolerance to emotional heat. Some people can handle a 20% or 30% drawdown on their retirement account. For others this is way outside of the norm and if this happened to them they would do some irrational things and potentially cause more damage.
A draw-down is the sum total of the negative equity effect that one losing trade or multiple consecutive losing trades has on your account. The idea is to keep the draw-down small, however if you are using aggressive risk parameters when you should be using conservative risk parameters then this may be impossible to do.
Generally speaking, the larger the potential reward, the larger the risk will be.
Also, if you lose 20% do you know how much you have to make back in order to be back to break even? It isn't just 20%. It is actually 25%. Here is a table of % of draw-down and what is required to make it back to break even.
| Draw-down % | % Required to get back to break even |
| 10% | 11.1% |
| 20% | 25% |
| 30% | 42.8% |
| 40% | 66.6% |
| 50% | 100% |
| 60% | 150% |
| 70% | 233.3% |
| 80% | 400% |
| 90% | 900% |
That is why I use strict risk parameters and never risk more than 3% on any one given aggressive trade and 1.5% on any one given conservative trade. In fact the largest draw-down that my Advent Forex system has seen over the past two years is 14% trading the aggressive money management and 7% trading the conservative money management.
On the other hand if you have a system that has a 50% draw-down you now need to make a 100% return just to get back to break-even. How much heat do you think you would be feeling at this point? Would your palms be sweaty and would you be hesitating to take the next trade?
Would you start saying things that you normally wouldn't say like, "I don't like this trade. I think I will pass". When you do this that trade is guaranteed to be the one trade that would have pulled you out of the hole. Then on the next trade you say, "Well I'll take this trade and I will double up on it so that I can make the money back quickly". That trade ends up being a loser and you are in a worse position than before. Infection has set in and before long you may need an amputation and have nothing left.
I know this is a gruesome scene but, this is the reality of 95% of traders. I don't want it to be your reality.
As soon as the Advent Forex Mentorship program opens back up to more students I will let you know.
Please call or email my office anytime.
To your trading success,

Cecil Robles
support@ethostraders.com
If you have any questions please feel free to call my office:
Office Line - 866-200-1102 M-F 11:00am - 4:00pm PST
P.S. Be on the lookout for an invitation from me to a free webinar this month. I'll be talking about some important topics for those that want to be top notch traders.
*Any income claims are typical of top performers not all users and your results will vary. These results are as reported in testimonials from members using the Advent Forex course and trading techniques
Government Required Disclaimers:
Risk Disclosure Statement:
The risk of loss in trading foreign exchange can be substantial. You should therefore carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition.
Unique experiences and past performances do not guarantee future results! Results are non-representative of all clients; certain accounts may have worse performance than that indicated. Trading spot foreign currencies involves substantial risk and there is always the potential for loss. Your trading results may vary. Because the risk factor is high in the foreign exchange market trading, only genuine “risk” funds should be used in such trading. If you do not have the extra capital that you can afford to lose, you should not trade in the foreign exchange market. No “safe” trading system has ever been devised, and no one can guarantee profits or freedom from loss. Trading involves high risks and you can lose a lot of money.
Past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results and individual returns may vary amongst participants. Investment return and principal value will fluctuate so that an investor’s account, when redeemed, may be worth more or less than their original investment. All performance figures assume the reinvestment of realized gains and capital gains. There is considerable exposure to risk in any foreign exchange transaction, including, but not limited to, the potential for changing political and/or economic conditions that may substantially affect the price or liquidity of a currency. This is not a solicitation to invest. Please consult a licensed investment advisor and read all risk warnings before committing funds.
Forex, Futures and options trading has large potential rewards, but also large potential risk. You must be aware of the risks and be willing to accept them in order to invest in the futures and options markets. Don’t trade with money you can’t afford to lose. This website is neither a solicitation nor an offer to Buy/Sell futures or options. No representation is being made that any account will or is likely to achieve profits or losses similar to those discussed on this website. The past performance of any trading system or methodology is not necessarily indicative of future results.
CFTC RULE 4.41 – HYPOTHETICAL OR SIMULATED PERFORMANCE RESULTS HAVE CERTAIN LIMITATIONS. UNLIKE AN ACTUAL PERFORMANCE RECORD, SIMULATED RESULTS DO NOT REPRESENT ACTUAL TRADING. ALSO, SINCE THE TRADES HAVE NOT BEEN EXECUTED, THE RESULTS MAY HAVE UNDER-OR-OVER COMPENSATED FOR THE IMPACT, IF ANY, OF CERTAIN MARKET FACTORS, SUCH AS LACK OF LIQUIDITY. SIMULATED TRADING PROGRAMS IN GENERAL ARE ALSO SUBJECT TO THE FACT THAT THEY ARE DESIGNED WITH THE BENEFIT OF HINDSIGHT. NO REPRESENTATION IS BEING MADE THAT ANY ACCOUNT WILL OR IS LIKELY TO ACHIEVE PROFIT OR LOSSES SIMILAR TO THOSE SHOWN.

There is no comparison when it come to Advent Forex. Yours is the only system that works. Advent Forex by itself works. 10-15 sessions in the live training puts you over the top, and if you did nothing else than take the trades that they, you would be successful.
- Robb Homuth, Optometrist, California U.S.A.
------------------------------------
I am totally satisfied with Advent Forex. I’m impressed with how robust the system is. Once you start taking the course, it becomes very clear that there is a great deal of science and research behind the Advent Forex system. Cecil is not in the DVD business, he’s a real trader and the results provided by the system prove it. The money management part of the course is the most critical portion of the system and that’s what separates it from the rest. That is what makes Advent Forex an outstanding system. I also enjoy the fact that Cecil provides feedback and critique of my trades before the trades are triggered. In my previous experience the only kind of feedback that I had was after the fact. In 2008 I posted a 44.86% Return on Equity for the 12 months ended December. That includes my trades with the system prior to trading SniperFX. I started trading the SniperFX and stopped trading the FPA on June-08. When measuring my ROE between June and December, I posted 52.88%. The conclusion is logical: the first system that I used lost money. It’s all backed-up on my spreadsheet. On closed trades for the 9 days of January I’m posting a 28% ROE since Jan 1st. That does not include the floating profit on open positions. Advent Forex is complex, but not complicated at all. I took all lessons in about 1 week. Then I reviewed them all over again at a slower pace in order to absorb the concepts. I would say after a 3-week period I had a good understanding of the strategies. I have reviewed the videos another 3 times since May-08 and every time I realize that I had forgotten important concepts. There’s no comparison between Advent Forex and other systems I've tried. Besides the FPA, I also tested ForexConfidential for a while before purchasing SniperFX. These two other systems that I tried are managed by honest and serious people, but they absolutely lack the knowledge and in-depth precision of Cecil and Advent Forex. I don’t know every single system out there, but I challenge anyone to show me a more powerful money management system than the one taught by Cecil. And that is just the single most important factor in this system. We learn how to compound profits on existing positions. Who else out there provides such a tool? Gabriel Camerini, Financial Analyst, Massachusettes U.S.A.
------------------------------------
In Oct 07 I attended Cecil's Live workshop and in all honesty,the 2 days course was worth the price. He is the first person that has covered both fundamental and Technical trading strategies in-depth. In my opinion one needs more than 30 days to actually get a good grip of the workability of this whole system. This guy knows what he's talking about and its very good for a 5 years experience. If you are yet to have your own trading system , You need to listen to Cecil and you will fly after all, just like me.
Ayodeji Henry, Lagos
------------------------------------
Hi Cecil, I put $500 into an account during our seminar in Houston (after a fee it was actually $498). Check it out now - not even a week later and it's more than doubled. I'm not pyramiding yet - just 2 minis each - no guts yet for that method and these skyrocketed so quickly I doubt I could have kept up in any case. :-) I couldn't get the whole screen in. Currencies traded were EURUSD, EURCAD, GBPJPY and GBPCHF. Thank you so much! This is an entirely new way to look at market behavior. Feel free to use my note and/or screen shot as a testimonial if you like. I'm sure it's not like this every day but I've had an awfully good week since the seminar - way too much for just good luck or coincidence. My screen has looked almost this good every day since the seminar. Meryl
------------------------------------
You are the Best! I'm so used to not getting a response for a looooong time (MacX Website - not yours!) So far, I'm impressed with your service, and as a doctor I'm used to doing that whether it's 12 noon or 2AM. I just want you to know how much you are appreciated. Thank you so much! I'll try not to bug you, but communication is important for this business. Fred Reid
------------------------------------
Hi Cecil, I dont know what to say.I'm up 714 pips with your contrarian trade.I ve been quite modest with the trades as well.Some had targets of 30 pips (which I took and exited the trades) but ended up moving over 200 pips! I pity my broker. Thanks alot. If it wasnt for you I would be dealing with a couple of margin calls by now. David Akero Nairobi, Kenya.
------------------------------------
Just wanted to send you two a quick note. I have just completed module 4 and I love your course!! So well designed and thought out. I really appreciate the time and effort you put in to produce, teach and administrate it!! Can’t wait to see the improvements to it as well!! Thanks & have a great day!! Scott M.
------------------------------------
Cecil, This is my testimonial, a 122% increase in under three months. I started this account in Dec. after the Idaho class and this is the graph as of yesterday. Thanks so much, Susan